Another victim comes out at RethinkingAIDS

More bad news from https://www.facebook.com/groups/RethinkingAIDS/

A young guy has just posted:

I have stopped meds. Like almost a month ago. Just havent been able to post it here. And I feel great. Cleaned my liver. Detoxicating myself. N eating more healthy than ever. N I have a very supportive bf.

29 comments follow applauding his crazy decision let his health fall of a cliff.

One particularly deranged member’s comments caught my eye:

“… based on the information we have all shared on here most of us have CD4 count less than 200 but are as healthy as can be. Remember how this industry is one sided, if such research is to be done I dont’ think it will ever be shared…. A CD4 count can’t be done on an individual unless there is an HIV diagnosis.”

Where do I start? WBC test can’t be done unless someone has HIV? CD4 count of under 200 is healthy!!

Crowe and gang will be delirious with happiness, as they have another poster boy to whose face they can plaster all about the internet.

Dead people living well ?

Living well – really?

Here’s the list from the Living Proof website.

Names crossed out denotes a death from AIDS or related complications.

Maria Papagiannidou
John Hankins
Karri Stokely
Onnie Mary Moyo Phuthe
Tomás Brewster
Lindsey Nagel

Two are sadly passed away. I know of two others who are prominent on youtube and the rethinkingaids facebook page. I

And from Living With0ut HIV Drugs at least 3 are now dead, and several who are active on the questioningaids.com forum and very low CD4 counts and piss-poor quality of life.  I am a loss to understand why they think CD4 counts of 200 or less are healthy, or that staying off meds is going to help them. Some of the denialists sheepishly admit to going back onto meds when their quality of live becomes unbearable. Why?! If you don’t believe the science why take the meds? If you think they do more harm than good why start meds again?

Its very, very depressing to have to list these name and think about so many people who have died way before their time. If only they’d listened to reason.

I suspect more people listed on this site have passed away but can’t be sure.

Anne Anonymous Christy Daz M. Denis C. Dennis L. Emery T. Frank A. Greg W. Heru Jeff K. J. Jonathan B.

Karri S. Kay R. Kevin C. Kim B. Lee M.S. Mark C. Mark H. Mitchelle M. Nakalembe Noreen M. Norman S. Paula M.

Ron M. Scott D. Star Z. Stephen J. Terry R. Tim B. Tomas B. Tommy M. TTSIN GERMAN Marcus P.

Another dead denialist

Maria Papagiannidou died last Sunday. Another very public and active denialist has kicked the bucket; sad but predictable. Her face and “story” is all over the internet.

She appeared on TV espousing the lie of living a “healthy” life with HIV/AIDS, while her immune system CD4 cells were being invaded and killed off.

She wrote a book, “Goodbye AIDS! Did it ever exist?”. (Yes it does, and it killed you.)

I know she contacted some people I know about starting HAART but she left it a bit late. She and her husband did everything within their considerable powers to rubbish HIV science, question the medicine and scare people away from treatment: for that she’s now paid the ultimate price.

I hope that people who read this will draw one lesson: AIDS DENIAL KILLS.

Don’t be taken in by the smiling faces and sob stories of people who claim to live a perfectly healthy life free of (HIV) drugs: if you are HIV positive you can’t and will die.

Rethinking AIDS will have to do yet another edit to remove this deceased rethinker: she thought her last thought on Sunday. So farewell Maria. Peace be with you.

UPDATE – New post from Denying AIDS blog on the Maria P New post from Denying AIDS blog

UPDATE(2) – This is her denialist website. I guess its needs updating to reflect the the fact she’s gone to a better place.

Oh dear – another film

Dame Joan Shenton’s latest effort in mass deception is premiered in London tomorrow evening:

Positively False

Inspite of the glossy poster and the impressive sounding sub-domain, this is a rehash of old interviews with the usual suspects and some new footage. I guess a few wierdos and conspiracy theorists will be taken in by the fragrant Dame Joan. More worryingly some HIV sufferers may be persuaded to stop treatment. Shenton should be prosecuted and exposed as a liar. What a sick and malicious woman, cynically showing the film in one of the most deprived parts of the capital where the rates of HIV infection are particular accute.

On another matter I see that the “Living Without HIV Drugs” website still has testimonies of dead people claiming to be alive. Its remarkable that the people behind this website haven’t got round to editing it. Perhaps they are dead too ?

Brian Carter’s CD4 count is 4.

Rethinking AIDS 2011 conference cancelled

The personalities behind this shadowy organisation have fallen out.

The conference is cancelled.

It must have taken a lot of organising to find an hotel with so many padded rooms.

Clark Baker is claiming his 37th success in court. He lives in Perry Masonesque fantasy world. Poor Clarkie. What a looser!

Clark Baker – HIV Innocence Project – SCAM ALERT

!!SCAM ALERT!!

OMSJ is an elaborate scam with one aim: to get HIV +ve people to stop taking their medication. Clark Baker is contacting people convicted for criminal transmission of HIV. There’s no court in the world that could take these people seriously (well perhaps Zimbabwe …)

Read all about it on Seth’s blog:

http://denyingaids.blogspot.com/2011/05/aids-denialism-in-action-clark-baker.html

Who is paying Baker’s wages and who is funding the websites they have? Why target HIV +ve prisoners?

Brian Carter: An Apology

Reports of Mr Carter’s death may have been exaggerated. We’d like to take this opportunity to apologise for premature nature of this announcement.

Mr Carter has not yet died of AIDS.

Mr Barnett though he is becoming progressively less well according to reports published on the eminent medical research website questioningaids.com.

Ms Farber and Mr Scheff are still alive and well. Sadly they are running out of HIV positive friends due to a collective lack of T-cells.

Another denialist dies from HIV/AIDS

Sad news from yesterday, Karri Stokely has died from suspected AIDS related pneumonia.

A leading AIDS denialist and activist for Rethinking AIDS, the organisation behind “House of Numbers”. Her face was the front to many of their publicity campaigns to persuade HIV positives to stop taking medication and place their fate in the hands in alternative medicine and religion.

Since turning her back on western medicine her condition had progressively declined though she claimed she never felt better. Her last months were marked by pain and rapidly declining health.

Hopefully her example will send a very clear message to people who feel that western medicine is not the right way to treat HIV. It’s a personal choice, but a stark one.

It’s not been a great 12 months for Rethinking AIDS with the death of two of their most prominent activists from AIDS related conditions. But that’s not stopped them, and their 2011 “rethinking” conference is looming and no-doubt they will have a few new faces lined up to parade before an unwitting public. Watch this space.

This sounds very exciting …

A report on an exciting medical paper was covered in Haretz last week. A group is Israeli scientists reckon they have found a way to kill off HIV infected T-CELLS. The holy grail of HIV treatment is to eradicate the virus completely from the body. ARV treatments suppress replication of HIV but they don’t kill off T-cells infected with HIV that lay dormant in the lymphatic system even when a patient is “virally suppressed” on medication.

It seems the only way to cure a patient of HIV infection is to kill off infected T-cells thus stopping viral replication in its track.

The researchers are looking to carry out trials in animals first and then humans. The therapy will take several years to get into Phase II trials so don’t get your hopes up to quick folks! But this is certainly exciting news and sounds like a major breakthrough in HIV research.

Report on the paper is here

And the paper is here.

Sick

A new thread appearing in the questioningaids.com forums:

“My brother has just been found to be HIV positive with a tcell count of 17. The docs say he has no time to wast he needs to start meds right away and he has full blown Aids. So he did. Many doctors sat with him in a room and broke the news to him and told him he must have been infected over 10yrs ago. With out second opinion or test he has started his med threapy. They told him it was a matter of life and death. I’m scared for him. He was not (is not) a drug user, homosexual and has had very few sex partners in the past. He has been married for 8 years now and his wife tested negitive.(will be tested again) I’m sure there are many of you out there that have the same story. I (we) would like to know what we should do next. We are no holding anyone responsible for their opinions and advise. PLEASE HELP US UNDERSTAND WHERE WE SHOULD BE GOING FROM HERE

Maybe this post is a troll. Its one that gets the sickos at QA very excited. A new recruit for their suicide cult?

Responses thus far have all recommended reading “dissident” websites and ignoring advice from doctors. If a patient presented at any clinic in London with a CD4 of 17 they’d be put on ARVS immediately and monitored closely. This guy has full blown AIDS and will not live very long if he ignores medical advice.

“The greatest danger for him is to obey the docs without thinking all the matter by himself“, opines CDM.

The sociopathic Brian Carter suggests, “Start a second opinion search, preferably outside mainstream care clinics. Our health threads contain some alternatives.” Accupuncture, herbal medicine, homepathy?

“There’s no way to know what to make of the T cell count, other than trying to determine if known stressors are at work (since no properly controlled study has been done to date.)” says HansSelyeWasCorrerct.

And so it goes on. What planet to these self-professed medical experts think they are???? The collective response from the morons who inhabit the QA forum is unbelievable. Fair enough to choose as an individual with a HIV diagnosis to ignore medical advice: its a choice, however fucking stupid. But to dish out this garbage to a worried relative trying to help his sibling is sick and evil.